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I am sick and tired of the “hellaflush” craze. It is obnoxious and is only appreciated by people who have their priorities so far out of whack as to barely be recognizable as performance-oriented.

For those of you who aren’t familiar, “hellaflush” wheel and tire setups have really wide, low-offset wheels that generally stick out slightly from under the fenders. The wheels themselves are usually something obnoxiously expensive (Volks, Works, etc), and the tires on them are generally stretched to provide more fender clearance.

Let’s go back to basics here, people. Wheels were originally intended to do one thing and one thing only:

HOLD THE PROPER SIZE TIRES IN THE PROPER PLACE.

Besides that, all wheels do is add unsprung weight, prevent you from bolting on bigger brakes, and reduce cooling airflow to the rotors. Yes, they can look good. But they can also look horribly, horribly wrong.

If you have 18×9.5″ +30 wheels on your GC, and your fenders are pulled like crazy to fit your stretched 235’s, I don’t like your jerk-off car, your jerk-off name, or your jerk-off face. Keep your ugly fuckin’ gold-brickin’ ass outta my beach community.

Reasons:

1) Hellaflush setups run less tire than they could, because the wheels are wider than the tires. Tires are the most important component of your suspension; everything else exists to keep the tire on the road. The size and stickiness of the rubber on the road determines mechanical grip, not the width of the track.

2) Your tires are stretched, meaning you look like a ricer, a drift fanboi (which is a type of ricer) or a meth-addled Eurotuner (which is a type of ricer).

3) Messing with offsets ruins your steering feel and screws with your suspension geometry. Google “Sport Compact Car Dave Point” and learn the meaning of things like scrub radius before you start fiddling with things.

4) Hellaflushing = curb rash (this is God’s way of saying “take these things off your WRX and put them back on the rear of a 350Z where they belong”).

5) The 22B didn’t have that great a suspension setup. Yes, I know it’s sacrilege. The ride was too harsh and it tramlined badly. It was a special edition– it didn’t have to work in the real world. There’s a lesson here.

6) Heavy fender modification is easy, but it almost always looks like hell, requires much more work to correct, and invites rust. And if you don’t pull them enough, your tire and fender will eat each other.

7) The hellaflush “movement” is mostly practiced by people who have more money than a) sense, b) patience, or c) interest in actually learning something about cars.

8) Wider wheels are heavier. Why pay extra to go slower?

9) 235’s will fit on a GC with a careful fender roll, which doesn’t have to alter the exterior appearance of the fender or even crack the paint on the edge. What the hell is the point?

10) If your excuse is “it’s a show car and it doesn’t matter if it works in the real world,” then my answer is, “show cars are for weenies.”

oooo, a pissed off suby owner. You know what I hate? I hate the Rota/Sportmax wheel movement in the Impreza/EVO/350Z community.

You know what I am pissed off of at? FFFs. Fucking Forum Faggots. and VFBs. Virtual Forum Badasses. [reference:http://www.beyondthedyno.com/Blogs/Eric/?p=947] No one asked you to be so damn close minded. Different strokes for different folks. You know what, I think I can alter his words towards my message. ENJOY.

I am sick and tired of the “sportmax/rotas” craze. It is obnoxious and is only appreciated by people who have their priorities so far out of whack as to barely be recognizable as Volk Racing/Works.

For those of you who aren’t familiar, “sportmax/rotas” wheel and tire setups have really ghey, high-offset wheels that generally stick in slightly from over the fenders. The wheels themselves are usually something obnoxiously cheap, and the tires on them are generally there to provide more fender gap.

Let’s go back to basics here, people. Wheels were originally intended to do one thing and one thing only:

NOT TO BE A FRONTING ASSHOLE

If you have Rota/Sportmax wheels, I don’t like your jerk-off car, your jerk-off name, or your jerk-off face. Keep your ugly fuckin’ car outta my community.

Reasons:

1) Sportmax/Rota setups look really cheap on your car. You know how wheels are supposed to make or break your car? They just break them.

2) I don’t care how good it looks because they released the concave version. Support the real deal.

3) Don’t be the goddamn downfall of the industry.

4) If you can save up $1000 for some Sportmaxxes/Rotas, you can def. save a bit more for the legit shit. No tuner pays twice. That’s just stupid.

5) The 22B didn’t have that great a suspension setup. Yes, I know it’s sacrilege. The ride was too harsh and it tramlined badly. It was a special edition– it didn’t have to work in the real world. There’s a lesson here. [I’m sorry what did you say? What does that have to do with hellaflush?]

6) Heavy fender modification is easy, but it almost always looks like hell, requires much more work to correct, and invites rust. And if you don’t pull them enough, your tire and fender will eat each other. [Why do you think there are fender rollers for. + heat guns. DUH.]

7) The hellaflush “movement” is mostly practiced by people who have more money than a) sense, b) patience, or c) interest in actually learning something about cars. [Actually, thats the whole part of being hellaflush. You gotta pay to play. They have to have common sense, patience (especially when they are fender rolling and researching for the right fitment), and interest in actually learning something about cars.]

8)


If you watch this, most of these cars ARE flush. Most are conservative while others are radical. No shit sherlock, of course they got their shit aligned. Who wouldn’t?

9) Most of the time the fender roll is done on the INSIDE of the fender so the tires won’t rub.

10) Gearheads with close minded thoughts are weenies.

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