QFT with my $0.02
There are some truths in this write-up but there are some that I agree or disagree with. The parts that I agree or disagree with are in bold.
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“Because with the internet and forums and all. things can come and go so quickly. It’s like a game of cat and mouse. It makes it harder to dedicate yourself and easier to just jump around trying to follow the trends, but then you’re just a follower. Back in the ricer days, we used to call that being a “poser.” You have to make sure you’re doing stuff that fits you because things can easily lose their luster with all that bouncing around going on. Want an example? Look at stance and wheel fitment. It’s hot right now, but I think it’s time may be running out. I fear the internet has already given it a death sentence – and not because it’s not cool, but because eeeeverybody’s jumped on the bandwagon. Everybody’s got a blog, and a lot of people have big heads. Leave it to internet geeks to nerd-up something cool. Stance is coo, but it’s not the end-all and be-all of the sport compact scene. All the attitude and judgement is a turn off, especially if you’re stock under the hood. That’s just asking to get called out, and all it’s going to take is a couple of good call-outs by some street guys making power and the trend will shift back to motor.
The problem is that we have a lot of lame asses in the scene right now, and they want to create their cliques, crews, clubs, squads, teams, or whatever. They want to put up fences and keep people out of their elitist tree house. But they end up keeping so many people out that enough of us are left outside ready to break your fence and tree down.
Why is the scene like that? We’re like a bunch of sorority girls. When did this happen? Let’s be honest for a second. Maybe it’s because we all feel backed in a corner for just liking what we like. When guys are talking crap on forums, all they’re usually trying to do is defend what they have and what they like. You can see through the BS if you look. We’re human, and we’re going to defend our cars because we have a lot of pride, love, and effort wrapped up in them. But the fact that we’re human also makes it easy to get caught up in drama and make us want to take sides and create teams.”
– Jonathan Wooley, Editor of S3 Mag
“eeeverybody’s jumped on the bandwagon. Everybody’s got a blog, and a lot of people have big heads. Leave it to internet geeks to nerd up something cool.”
The question is what defines someone who is a bandwagon-er and by someone who isn’t? Is it by how long they have been in the scene or by how early/late they started up their blog? If that’s the case…then I must be a bandwagon-er. Look, you can be in the scene for the longest time but if negativity is all your bringing, it won’t do much in the long run. If something happened within your personal life that was a bit “negative”, I suggest you put that in the backseat instead of using it to criticize someone’s car. (I guess this applies to the people that comment on Speedhunters. Please know the difference between hating and constructively criticizing someone.) I’m also tired of hearing about how some people nominate themselves to be “OG”. The “OG” title isn’t something you give yourself. It’s what your peers and the whole industry perceives you. Kinda like how when some people used DSLRs back in the day and now people rage over the fact that there are crapload of more photographers using DSLRs. As for the influx of blogs. Yes, I’ll admit that there are a LOT but that shouldn’t matter to you. People can easily choose to weed out what is considered a great blog and a mediocre blog. For a blog and the automotive community, it doesn’t matter how long you’ve started, it’s what you bring to the table. Just like a chef prepares food to bring to the table behind the kitchen, so do bloggers in their own spare time trying to find material. Everyone has their own unique style of what they want to bring out of their blog. I say, the more the better. (As long as there is quality material). Unfortunately, the internet has given people to hate on something that is not within their own comfort zone or lack of thinking for themselves when a blog with a “nonsensical” name suddenly appears but to an outsider of the automotive scene, both site names are just as “nonsensical”. Question though, how can you tell which blogger is a internet geek and which one isn’t? Computer nerd or Car nerd? From the blogs I’ve been reading, they all seem to be gearheads.
“The problem is that we have a lot of lame asses in the scene right now, and they want to create their cliques, crews, clubs, squads, teams, or whatever. They want to put up fences and keep people out of their elitist tree house. But they end up keeping so many people out that enough of us are left outside ready to break your fence and tree down.”
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but cliques will always exist. Crews, Clubs, Squads and Teams are just group of cliques filled with people who are comfortable and close with one another. From my observation, there are cliques at meets too. Sometimes they think in their head “So why is everyone in cliques at this meet? I thought I was going to meet more people.” I guess the problem is that most of us are too secure within our own “bubble” that we don’t want to break our own comfort zone. As for the influx of Crews, Clubs, Squads, and Teams, it depends on what they want out of the car scene. Some are in it for fun and to hang out with their fellow gearheads, some want to get e-famous, and some serve a purpose for their existence.
“Stance is coo, but it’s not the end-all and be-all of the sport compact scene. All the attitude and judgment is a turn off, especially if you’re stock under the hood. That’s just asking to get called out, and all it’s going to take is a couple of good call-outs by some street guys making power and the trend will shift back to motor.”
You know that forum icon where the smiley has a confused face while scratching it’s head? This is one. Isn’t calling out someone part of that attitude and judgment you are turned off by or does it just work one way? Yes, there is a huge problem with elitism and it’s not just in the stance community. It’s in all parts of the scene whether you see it or not. I highly doubt that some stance guy is going to post in a performance oriented forum on their platform and say “look at my car, it will beat your asses at the track” That stance guy will most likely be at StanceWorks or Fatlace forum. Performance gearheads like to drive hard while Stance gearheads like to roll hard. Drifters do both. I don’t see the logic that stance-heads aren’t true car guys. So what defines a true car guy? Is it by the amount of seat time at the track? If you do live up by the performance standard, shouldn’t you be making adjustments to your suspension/motor instead of browsing around forums looking to criticize stance guys? What makes you better than that guy? Nothing. You gotta realize that people have different priorities even if it isn’t in sync with your own. Some like taking their car to the track, some like showing off their car, some like to drive it on the daily, some like to trailer their car, and some just don’t give a crap. It doesn’t matter which part of the puzzle you’re in, there will always be that one bad apple ruining it for your scene. It’s there, you’ll find them. At the end of the day, we’re all car guys. (just with different priorities doing the same things.) Creating friendships, making connections, helping each other out on the forum in performance gains and wheel offsets or on a part-install day in someone’s garage regardless of what part that is.
“We’re like a bunch of sorority girls….When guys are talking crap on forums, all they’re usually trying to do is defend what they have and what they like. You can see through the BS if you look. We’re human, and we’re going to defend our cars because we have a lot of pride, love, and effort wrapped up in them.”
I’ll agree with you on the sorority girl statement. People feeling threatened over a blog’s presence is the first of many things I’ve seen. Just like a stance guy is posting up their ride on a forum and someone doesn’t like it because it’s “excessive”, they modified their car because it gives them a canvas to show their creativity based on the inspiration of other tuners. The same goes for the performance guy. I will admit it, BOTH sides of the spectrum have cars that are sometimes overdone. Some may not prefer the parts you put in but why should that matter? You brought up that performance guys defend their cars because they have lots of pride, love, and effort. The same applies to any other car guy. It’s not limited to just stance. Those who choose to keep their minds shut will obviously prefer the stereotype of the scene.
I don’t need to explain the stereotypes for these two pictures since you know which category they belong in.
“We can never judge the lives of others, because each person knows only their pain and renunciation. It’s one thing to feel that you are on the right path, but it’s another to think that yours is the only path.” -Paulo Coelho