It can work for women…right?
If it worked for Audi…
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The true characteristics of Anti-Fandom
Posted in Random, Rants on October 19, 2009 by jasonsgrainofsaltMondays…no one likes them.
The day where so much shit happens.
Anyways…SNSD-Antis are going to have a lot more shit considering how much material they gave me to write.
This is the continuation from this entry.
Anti-SNSD’s Enemy #1?
That will depend on how many Antis read this.
But then again, I’ve already said it on the very first entry.
NEUTRAL standpoint coming from a Korean with very TOUGH love.
So here it is
My 2 cents in bold brackets. [ ]
The so-called Taeyeon is Racist issue-Newsflash, there is NO Korean word for African American. There is only Black (흑인). It’s obviously not politically correct but if you lived in Korea, you should have known that by now. I listened to what she said about Alicia Keys. It was a compliment, not a racist remark. If you don’t understand Korean, ask a Korean friend who lives the life. Have you done that? Of course not. Delusional? Nope.
The so called SNSD vs. WG issue-I’m tired about constantly hearing about this shit. Can we stop? Personally I do like listening to both including KARA & Brown Eyed Girls. Also there are way too many girl groups popping up for me to catch up on so I would rather listen to these 4 groups. To the people that searched Irony, nice job there. Are you trying to imply the Wonder Girls song? If you really want a metaphor between SNSD vs. WG, it would be the Turtle vs. the Rabbit. Since there are chicks out there who prefer one to the other, I’ll just lay it out to you plain and simple. WGs are the Rabbits because they are dominating with their “Nobody” song & dance correct? If you watched Deep Talk with Park Junghoon w/ SNSD, Tiffany states that they would show who they are little by little at a time and work their way up instead of coming up really strong once then come up in disappointment when they comeback hence the Turtle. If you desperately want the clip, just watch it from Part 1. That is your homework. Search SNSD Deep Talk w/ PJH [eng].
(I don’t care if you’re a WG fan, SNSD fan, WG anti-fan, or SNSD anti-fan. Watch it and learn more about who they are instead of making shitty assumptions based on speculations that are questionable.)
As for winning the “race”, that is only LSM and JYP’s concern, not yours. Both groups perform because it’s their love of what they do, even though it is a profession.
Jessica “swearing” at Seohyun-”If you aren’t SNSD, then you don’t know.” That’s what they say. If you don’t know the protocol to what Jessica usually does when it comes to THEIR surprise party, then stop speculating. Since they cleared up the rumor, you shouldn’t even be bitching. You should be bitching about how most entertainers don’t keep it real and always go through the denial stage when they get called onto the spot about a certain rumor flying around. For SNSD? They clear it up for you whenever they go on radio. That is the main source is it not? Unless you have a degree in body language or you are Dr. Cal Lightman, I won’t take you seriously.
“Jessica was a bitch to me in High School.”- Reading from the comments on Jessica Jung 소녀시대 UCC Story. I guess you walked in at the wrong place at the wrong time. There is always drama in High School, don’t be so naive and the drama that comes with it…not worth it. Several things to note here though. Jessica was still an SM Trainee right? Here is the equation. (Still training for SM+Can’t express friendliness very well/Introverted personality+Stress=Misunderstandings bound to happen.) So if she lashed out at you, maybe the correlation is related or unrelated. OR you must have walked into the setting where she was bored.<-That expression alone will definitely be misinterpreted. Were you the ones spreading rumors about how she will fail? Maybe that has something to do with it. If her personality is cold at first, work around that. You do realize that not EVERY friendship will be easy. Some require EFFORT for both people to get along well. Life is not full of lollipops and sunshine.
Fany Fany Tiffany-The 소녀 that pretty much got so much shit from you pricks. What do I have to say about it? She changed now for the better and are you satisfied that she isn’t blunt as before? It seems you aren’t. Make up your minds already. Just because she is an American Born Korean, there are double standards? Shiet, more celebs have done far worse things that Tiffany has done and they weren’t born in America. Why not investigate that? Same thing happened with Jaebom right? All of a sudden, people start turning their backs over shit that you shouldn’t even be mad about. Maybe walk into people’s shoes and see how that goes. But since you can’t do that I can understand why. It’s your hormones talking.
SNSD are sluts/whores etc.-Saying that SNSD is like porn is like saying Super Junior is like gay porn. That doesn’t make sense considering that there are American made songs that are far more explicit. Once you become a parent, sooner or later you are going to need to give the kid the sex talk. If you don’t, he/she might get curious which will obviously lead to porn. I personally don’t see anything slutty about them considering that there are sluts out there who take pictures of themselves -> spreads through the internet -> guys fapping to their pictures. In regards to Feminism in your STAND Article, I have no idea why that’s there. You are probably the same person who watched Brown Eyed Girls-Abracadabra video and said “Wow, I just went gay for Ga-In.”
SNSD members are fake-Huh? I don’t recall any other idol groups that don’t mind sacrificing their image. Even if it’s just for laughs.
Dream Concert 2008 “incidents”-Don’t cry wolf if there is no wolf. Keep on crying wolf constantly then no one is going to listen to you.
“Girls’ Generation are supposed to be a representation for our Generation.”-Yes and all Big Bang members must believe in The Big Bang Theory, all 2NE1 members should be 21, Brown Eyed Girls members are supposed to have brown eyes, KARA members are supposed to be Greek not Korean, 2AM members should be always performing at 2AM, 2PM members should always be performing at 2PM, 4Minute songs should always last 4 minutes, 4Tomorrow won’t be performing for you today @ MuCore but tomorrow, WonderGirls are supposed to keep their WonderWoman/DreamGirls image, Super Junior are supposed to be Superman costumed, not guys dancing in suits, and T-ara should always be wearing Tiaras when they perform. You see what I did there?
If I did leave comments on…this is how STAND would respond.
“It’s really funny how you guys are willing to pick on STAND like that but aren’t willing to give the other sides story. Just about everything you said was biased and it was only how you say it. Have you ever thought of giving the chance for STANDers to give their side of the story.
Oh yeah, half of SNSD’s anti are not less than 13, actually 75% of them are 15 or older (I’m 16, so get you facts straight before posting up bullshit)
And STAND is not a group of people who sits at their computer bashing SNSD 24/7. Every single one us have lifes and only and we only use the spare time in our life when we’re completely bored to poke some fun at SNSD. So once again get your facts straight… don’t post crap if you don’t know us at all.
I hope this will help SNSD fans see our side of the story instead of sitting there agreeing with the above without hearing the other side. Remember this, there is always two sides to a story, and in this case I find it really hard to tell who is suppose to be good and bad.”
[Oh really? So kids at the age of puberty where they think they are the shit. No wonder they can't type correctly. If that's how people choose to type on the internet at the age of 16, the world is fucking screwed. As for STAND and using their spare time, I'm sure it takes a shitload of time coming up with new lyrics to bash on while using the music videos with the boytoys you want to meet. Including writing articles As much as I want to listen to your other side of the story, all I hear are the same complaints. So your story isn't really that valid to begin with. If they did clear up a rumor such as the Yoona/Tiffany skirt incident, maybe your brain should actually take it in. Where else are you going to get it confirmed? From your mom? Didn't you just say there are two sides to every story? Make up your fucking minds. Bitch please, don't bring up the cliche good or bad deal. Life doesn't function like a fairytale book and if it did, I don't know which world you live in. Your attitudes are more of "How ELITIST can I be because SNSD had surgery?" The comments speak for themselves.]
1. Shinwa
-Jun Jin
SNSD appeared at Sungmin’s DMB radio program as guests and they made fun of Shinhwa member JunJin. They called him “Justin Jinberlake” and Tiffany made a mockery of JunJin’s “Wa” dance from his solo performance, while other members were laughing and giggling.
Shinhwa fans were enraged that SNSD could be so disrespectful of their seniors, especially to Shinhwa, a legendary idol group that has amassed immense popularity for the past 10 years in the industry.
SNSD members were forced to personally apologize to Junjin.
-Shin Hye Sung
SNSD Tiffany also made rude comments, such as “Shin Hye Sung’s voice sounds like a goat” and “Look at Shin Hye Sung’s hair”.
-Lee Minwoo
When Lee Minwoo, in a playful manner, bowed and greeted SNSD first, what happened was that while the rest of SNSD were bowing, Hyoyeon (towards the right end) was the only one who didn’t and just stood there holding the hands of her members and preventing them from bowing too!
[Oy, you know THEY aren't the only ones calling JunJin "Justin Jinberlake". Maybe you should watch Infinity Challenge. It's just a nickname, it's not that offensive. JunJin should have been proud. I would have taken that as a compliment. I saw that clip on YouTube. I actually wanted to hear what the DJ was about to say next. Why was that part cut off? Hmmm? Didn't SoHee from WonderGirls also do this? Fuck YOU and your "double standards".]
- Using the word “garbage” for other groups on TV
On Happy Sunday program, there was a corner where two contenders tried to force each other to say “garbage” in order to win the game. On this day, SNSD’s Taeyeon sat across trot singer Park Hyun Bin and asked “What do you think of Shinhwa in Korea’s music industry?” In response, Park Hyun Bin said, “Garbage” in order to not lose to Taeyeon. However, SHinhwa member Kim Dong Wan was sitting next to them as a guest on the program. Both Taeyeon and Park Hyunbin were at fault. However, even if it was scripted, Taeyeon should have known better to not ask that question, instigating Park Hyunbin to respond unfavorably. Does it make sense to say this in front of a senior 10 years above herself?
Here’s a clip (starts at 4:17-4:22)
080413 Snsd TaeYeon Cut on Miraculous Victory and Defeat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_NTBNZtMA
[I watched this to see what you were fussing about. This is your antifandom bias talking again. Here is some advice. Watch 2:04-2:10 & Watch 4:25-4:46. It goes slow motion to the point where Kim DongWan wants to kick Park Hyun Bin's ass right? WRONG. Kim DongWan says "How did you know?" "Did I talk about it?" "I definitely didn't talk about it I think" "You know precisely!" Wow, you seriously can't differentiate Korean humor/sarcasm. It's just a fucking game, it's not taken seriously. Even Mr. Kim isn't taking it seriously. All you see is him smiling about it. This shouldn't even be up in the first place. Next time, watch the whole clip from the beginning and understand the game before you make up shit. Lighten up please. You must not be from here.]
2. Super Junior
-Tae Yeon came out on Kangin’s radio program and called him an “idiot” in korean so Kangin had to defend for Taeyeon and tell listeners she accidently mispronounced the word, and that she did not say that on purpose.
-On a show program Tiffany said “Lee Teuk” instead of “sonbae” when calling him to get his attention.
(In Korean there are two forms of speaking to someone and you must always formal speech when talking to elders–sunbaes.)
[Working in the same company equals bound to be close to the point where informal speech is allowed. That is if Lee Teuk allowed it. Oh Snap! You didn't know that did you?]
-SooYoung appeared on Star Golden Bell and lied that Lee Teuk only escorts girl trainees back home and accused him of being a player for which he got a lot of bashing for and a bad image in the media. This erroneous rumor spread like wild fire on the news.
[Go ask SM Trainees if that's true. Since you don't know any can you confirm or deny that? Tone and Context. I don't think you see it. The only thing that I think you see are just subbed portions from the tone and context and blowing that ish out of proportion. It's all just for laughs and humor. That's how the format works for SGB is it not? Introduction/Funny Stories/Showcase/Game.]
-On Chin Chin Radio, Evan (a singer) appeared on Chin Chin radio and was talking with Sunny and Sungmin when Sungmin suddenly said, “Leeteuk is the same!” Then Sunny shot back “How dare you compare him with Leeteuk” = “How dare you compare Leeteuk to Evan?”
When asked what she didn’t like about the 1st album , Suhyun said she didn’t like the wigs they wore because Super Junior T wore it. Other members asked, “Was that the same one Shin Dong wore?”
[If you're going to "try" to defame someone, at least spell their name correctly. It's SeoHyun and I don't see anything offensive. Tone and context. If you aren't Korean, don't type. If you are, don't take it too seriously.]
Tiffany also said SNSD is not a unit and that many people think they are because of Super Junior. She said, “Some people are afraid that we might break up into groups like SUJU, but we are ONE. Taeyeon’s “IF” is that of SNSD, “Oppa Nappa” is also that of SNSD. After she said this, Kim hee Chul and Lee Teuk were mad and upset and wrote on their cyworlds that super junior is “one” as well.
[Confidence. You and I have it when we reach our peak of our goals/dreams/aspirations.]
SNSD’s fans Conflict with SuperJunior’s fans
-In the case of SUJU, on the Taeyeon-Kangin radio program “Chin Chin”, -Taeyeon said a cuss word that eventually Kangin had to take responsibility!
Specifically she called him a “retard” in korean it’s a cuss word. In return Kangin had to defend for Taeyeon and tell listeners she accidentally mispronounced the word, and that she did not say that on purpose.
We all heard how Taeyeon received over 300 hate comments that day!
*
Here is the other side of the story!
-SNSD fans went to SUJU Kangin’s fan cafe and bashed him like there was no tomorrow with words that a living person could not say!
[Ok first of all, it was a slip of the tongue. We all had those moments. Second, they are both working in the same company. Ring a bell? Third, if two people get along very well and are very close, I'm sure Kangin told Taeyeon that it's okay to use informal speech for conversations. You do know that you can do that right? If the sunbae allows informal speech to the hoobae, its all good. If you're Korean, you should have known that by now. If you haven't, now you KNOW. Fourth, SNSD & SUJU fans should learn how to coexist. You pretty much are helping the same company. SNSD fans and SUJU fans arguing is like a Chevy Driver arguing with a GMC Driver. It doesn't make much sense arguing if you're both helping SM Entertainment and General Motors.]
3. S.E.S
SNSD commented that it would be difficult to follow S.E.S. because its members are artificial. (Looks who’s talking!)
And they added that SNSD is this generation’s beauties.
[HAHA, I can't believe you took what they said about artificial LITERALLY. Still up in arms over whether or not they had surgery? Comparing S.E.S. to SNSD is like comparing H.O.T. to Big Bang. You see where I am going with this?]
4. SS501
-When Tiffany saw Park Jung Min, she said he looks like he’d have 10 bank accounts and that he looks funny from far away.
-During the program, Tiffany also exclaimed “omg HIM”?! when she saw Park Jung Min. She has no right to be an MC.
[So Tiffany said that Park Jung Min looks like a rich guy? That should be a compliment, not an insult. As for the "omg HIM!?" In what tone did she say that exactly? Send me the video so I can judge it for myself.]
-SNSD fans made fun of SS501’s Kim Hyung Joon, saying “he looks disgusting.” They also made fun of Park Jung Min.
[Fan's fault]
5. DBSK
Same as what happened with SS501 and SUJU; some members of SNSD did not use formal speech when talking about DBSK and calling their names, like saying “Xiah Junsu” instead of “sonbae”.
- Jessica guest starred on Park Kyung Lim’s Outing. Park Kyung Lim asked Jessica who her favorite artist was and she said DBSK. Then Park Kyung LIm asked which member in DBSK she liked and she said “Jaejoong”, not using formal speech to say his name.
- Tiffany showed how witty she was by saying DBSK’s wave of red balloons looked like insects.
- SNSD fans were upset about the CF that SNSD did with DBSK so they accused DBSK of sexual harassment to give DBSK a bad image and creating a buzz in the internet.
[I find it weird that a CF that was made to be a fake scandal actually started to create one. What the fuck. As for the Sunbae ish, I've already went over this. I'm not going to give the same lecture again. Go find it. It's there.]
Disrespectful comments in DBSK’s chatting box
This is referring to DBSK’s incident where an anti-fan gave them a drink mixed with superglue that got Yunho sick and sent him to the emergency room.
One SNSD fan wrote: “Instead of medium-strength super glue, I want to see them swallow extra-strength super glue”
[Fan's fault not SNSD's. Learn how to differentiate before you start accusing people.]
And at the night of the concert!
There were no comments, such as “SNSD Disband”.
(Fans say that they have heard of this ‘petition’ for SNSD to disband; however, the dream concert organizers, “Cartel” fans, were not aware of this.) but while SNSD was singing, there were fans shouting “Wonder Girls!” instead that it must have hurt SNSD fans. There were also accounts that Wondergirls fans were crying because of this…because they were so moved.
[Fan accounts=people can exaggerate that shit and yeah I saw that video. How about you enjoy your group while other enjoy theirs? No need to bring tension and escalation into this. No one really cares if you are an antifan but to the dedicated fans that hear you say slut/whore/bitch to them at the concert, then of course some shit is going to break out hence that incident at your dream concert. What? You thought some shit wasn't gonna happen? Think realistically here, not in your own fantasy world. If you keep on stabbing with the internet sword, someone is going to stab you too.]
Another fan account, from a Cassie
I was constantly kicked in the head and was hit by balloons by SNSD fans. I got fed up and told them off “Stop it you bastards”. From that point on they started hitting my head with their fists. I remember exactly, there wasn’t just one person, but 5 or 10 that came to my seat and started beating me. SNSD fan girls were just looking at the scene and giggling, while some fans were so alarmed that they were talking of calling the police. I couldn’t defend myself and just patiently hoped that they would stop. When they left, I went over to the SUJU side to ask my friend for help. She took me to the hospital. When I awoke the next day at 2 in the afternoon, I found myself in a hospital bed with my mother humped over my bed, holding my hand tightly. I have bandages around my head it seems like my head was ripped open.
[Next time, take a self defense class. This shit sounds way too exaggerated and I don't trust it. Also, why the hell were you there in the first place? Shut your mouth if you're an anti. People go to concerts to support their artists. If you don't like a certain group, shut the fuck up. If you want to make yourself known as an anti and you're at a concert, of course some shit is going to happen to YOU. Don't be so naive.]
6. Big Bang
SNSD made fun of Tae Yang’s real name “Dong Youngbae”, saying “What kind of name is that? It’s not even “Dong Young sang” They probably though they were so clever that they could rhyme Young bae’s name to the word for videos in Korean.
[Korean Humor. Do you have it? Of course you don't. You can't even tell the difference. Koreans love using puns in case you haven't noticed especially with names. Maybe you should watch some more Star Golden Bell that doesn't include Big Bang/WonderGirls or whatever bias you have among certain groups. It's up there on YouTube, watch it sometime.]
7. Epik High- Tablo
Taeyeon was on Kangin’s Chin Chin radio when she saw Tablo at the computer. She said, “Doesn’t he look like a leet “오타쿠” ?
(For those who don’t know what leet means, you can look it up in “Urban Dictionary”. But leet is an internet word that has evolved into referring to gamers or computer hackers who are stuck in front of their computers. But in Korean, it also has negative references to the Japanese.)
[Isn't Tablo supposed to be hella smart?
I'm pretty sure Taeyeon meant that as a compliment.
Take it as the definition of a computer hacker.
From Yours Truly, Urban Dictionary.
"n: a language originally created by computer hackers to communicate through their coding while others could not do such a thing. It misspells words that have been commonly misspelled in English, such as "Teh". It also spells most words phonetically, making it as easy to type in leet as possible. When a word ends in "X" or "cks", it is suitable to put an "orz" at the end. DO NOT put this on the end of every word. leet is also a very flexable language, so you can make your own words and modify the English language (teh smecks is a common substitute for sexy) in any way you see fit as long as it's close.
adj: superior; elite."]
8. Happy Shares Company (만원의행복) show program
SNSD members were rude to the program PD (producer & camera man), intentionally hiding Yoonah (the guest) and giving her food to eat, which is against the rules on the show. When they were finally caught by the PD, they shook their head and said, “We didn’t do anything” and then at the end, blatantly admitted that Yoonah ate something.
The PD said, “For someone who is young, you shouldn’t do this, Yoonah.”
Yoonah replied, “I’m 18,” while blinking her eyes innocently.
Yuri, who was standing in front, said, “We are old enough ~” while Taeyeon grabbed the back of her neck and pretended to fall to the ground, expressing that what the PD said was not “fair”.
Obviously the PD had every right to speak his mind, and the way SNSD was treating him was very rude and inexcusable.
SNSD then performed the song “Girls Generation” that starts with quite fitting lyrics “Don’t make fun of me because I’m young…”
[So it was one rule breaker. Big fucking deal. I'm sure you have broken rules before. You aren't little Miss Sunshine. Also, EVERYONE on the show does that. A big FUCK YOU to your double-standards. (again). Hypothetically is some WG member pulled that off, your thought would probably be "You go girl!"]
9. Discriminating on show programs
On a weekend café program, SNSD called a trot singer “Sparkles” (referring to the bright sequined clothes they wear) and said, “Get money from Sparkles~”. The members delayed the serving the singer, saying amongst each other “I don’t like Sparkles”. They made their contempt for the singer evident while showing favoritism for some baseball players also at the café.
[So SNSD can't have their own opinion about who they like and don't like? What are you? Sterile?]
10. YoonA Disrespected Tei
YoonAh guest starred on Tei’s “Island” radio program. Tei greeted her with a full bow but Yoonha just gave a small bow as if greeting a B-list singer. Tei is not a B-list singer; he is one of the top ballad singers in Korea with a voice to die for.
[It's 2009 now, I'm pretty sure she bows to the point where her hair touches the ground. You find the video, not going to spoon-feed you this one.]
11. Wonder Girls
- Soshi fans went to Wonder Girls’ fan signing
One SNSD fan went to the Wonder Girls’ fan signing and asked Sunye to sign “Right now is Girls Generation”. This fan also dared to post a picture of Sunye singing this online.
[Once again, Fan's fault. Call him out not SNSD.]
-Whenever SNSD asks “Do you like Wonder Girls or SNSD?”
they grow cold and silent towards people who say “Wondergirls”.
- SNSD girls did mic tests while Wonder Girls was rehearsing. (Couldn’t they wait until Wonder Girls finished performing? Why do they always have to be an interference?)
[Unedited Fancam mofo. Do you have it?]
12. Tiffany disrespected Kim Ji Suk
As we covered this incident before actor Kim Ji Suk’s English was corrected on air by Tiffany and caused him embarrassment for the rest of the program. This is when Kim Ji Suk is fluent in English himself and he was raised in England and lived in the United States for some years as well!
[Yeah, I watched that one too before it got deleted. Besides the fact that Tiffany lived in the States, you gotta realize that back then she didn't know how the entertainment industry worked in Korea compared to the States. If I fuck up on my Korean, I expect you to tell me and correct me. If my parents need help in their English, I correct them too. She didn't flat out say "Your English is pretty bad" It's called LEARNING from both sides. Kim Ji Suk could have memorized the lyrics and Tiffany could have learned to not make a knee jerk reaction and learned the lyrics to that song too. Compare her now and then. Is it the same or different? Why bring up shit that happened a year ago? Also why was the part where the older gentleman was saying that she shouldn't have said that cut off? At least extend it so I can see the whole picture. Next time, don't edit shit out please but then again, its your antifan bias that's mostly doing the editing. Not surprised there.]
13. Christmas Charity volunteer activities
For a Christmas charity event, SNSD planned to visit a nursery to take care of kids. However, SNSD was late for the event, leaving only 20 minutes to take care of the kids. And during this time, there were so many reporters at the scene that all SNSD did was to take pictures with the kids. (It was just a publicity stunt to enhance their fake image.)
[So you based this all on what? Fancam & Fan accounts?]
14. When Nation Got Offended
Yuri made a slip of tongue, saying “My country” instead of “Our country” when referring to Korea, causing a national outcry.
[Look, you can have lots of pride in your country. But this is pushing it.]
To conclude this,they r just nothing,nothing else but a bunch of parasites that can not do anything but clinging to Lee Soo Man (incase you don’t know that Sunny is his niece),leeching the sunbae they don’t even have respects for.Yeah this is all I could say ’bout them
[Holy crap, is this how you type? If you gained success from LSM and helped you along the way of course you are going to stay to gain more success. As for Sunny being his niece, watch the Radio Star interview. Sunny was in a different company before SM Entertainment picked her up. The only thing Sunny gave was her name, birthday and other info. She still worked her ass off. People then realized and found out she was LSM's niece. As for "leeching", If there are groups in your company there will ALWAYS be chances of COLLABORATION. Have you heard of that word? People collaborate ALL the time within their OWN company.]
If you’re non-Korean Anti-Fan who is watching a Korean show with English subtitles, I personally think you have no validity in your arguments. Why? It’s like an American comparing Obama as Hitler. If you haven’t fully lived in Nazi Germany or Conservative Korea, you are better off not typing anything. If you are going to tell me that you watch Korean Dramas with English subtitles as an argument, all I have to say is LOL. (I’m all for learning new languages but if you’re going to blow things out of proportion on humor you don’t know about because the culture is different, then something is wrong here.) There is a difference between watching the life and knowing the life compared to actually living the life. Also, if you don’t fully know Korean culture in comparison with Western culture along with not knowing the difference between Korean sarcasm/jokes and seriousness, don’t even think about typing. (I’m pointing at you international Anti SNSDs) If you are Korean, you are taking this ish too far. Don’t tell me to open my eyes when you can’t even do the same. The only things you are basing off of are segments of clips/exaggeration instead of the whole picture. I’m not stopping you from hating SNSD so you can hate all you want but if you’re seriously going to use these arguments to persuade people, consider them DEAD. You’re NOT their Manager, You’re NOT their Parents, and You’re NOT their Sunbae. SNSD will be YOUR Sunbae if you ever debut, so good luck with that. You say you can do better, prove it.
Admit it, you have no more material. It’s 2009 and now you want to point fingers at the fans? Well, according to this video.
0:15 & 1:50 mark-Picture use FAIL. Why? SNSD isn’t crying because of fans faults, it’s the thought about their MOTHERS.
Part 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc_VsctFntU
Part 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW8glbhdyJU
Why bring up that Dream Concert picture again? Adding fuel to the fire? 1:32 mark.
As for bringing up the rape issue about not being confirmed. I searched everywhere and all I found was NOTHING. That source link was there and obviously deleted which I assume someone was talking out their ass? You shouldn’t cry wolf about rape if it never happened.
Next time when you make a “persuasive” video, don’t think about using Canon in D to try to “guilt-trip” the dedicated fans.
If you want fans to “ignore” you, don’t exist in the first place.
Go support your boy bands (even if they do work in the same company). Take your raging hormones elsewhere.
If you’re a guy who happens to be Anti-SNSD, I never knew your estrogen levels were sky high on petty little things.
On a related note:
Thanks for keeping things civilized at the 2009 Dream Concert. As for the correlation of plastic surgery, thanks for proving it to me again Netizens. Debut->Hunt for past pictures->Compare->Speculate.
One last thing…Since PopSeoul gave you Korean terminology and you think you know everything. Sign up for Yonsei University Korean summer school class and put that shit into good use. Once you step in Korea…culture shock right? Tell me how that goes in your 1 month stay in Korea. Didn’t your parents tell you to never play with fire you can’t handle? You’re bringing the heat on YouTube yet ratings are disabled and comments have to be approved. It’s obvious that you’re all just softies behind the computer.
